FireCar Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 Can I go from my defective CCC (Nav Pro) to the basic Mask or CHAMP head unit? The current CCC (professional navigation) unit is experiencing frequent reboots throughout the starting process, namely when the BMW emblem is shown. The price of these CCC head units starts at £350 for second-hand units and increases from there. I would want to inquire if it is possible to downgrade to a simple Mask or Mask-ll or CHAMP head unit. The previous Mask/CHAMP head units include identical connectors on their rear side. Based on my observation, it seems that modifying the front fascia and other related components would be necessary. However, it remains uncertain if these modifications would be effective. The main goal is to get data from the car's sensors, such as oil level and engine temperature. If the radio is functional, it would be considered an additional benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulh2602601 Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 Although my 116i Sport was equipped with a Champ II, I do not remember having the ability to access any engine sensors. The vehicle was equipped with 'sport' dials on the screen, however they were non-functional due to the ECU not transmitting speed and RPM data. There were no more gauges. The Champ II is equipped with a 6-pin display connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireCar Posted June 18, 2024 Author Share Posted June 18, 2024 These are the connections on a champion unit. The display connection located on the right side consists of 10 pins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinallcars Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 This listing displays the backside of a Champ 2 device, with the purple colour indicating the video output connection to the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinallcars Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266740309078?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338774556&toolid=10001&customid=130832X1595858Xeb4e22876afa66ed0dd8161b06ec394c I installed an Android screen and recall that although the original equipment manufacturer (OEM) screen was CIC, the video cable used was NBT, specifically the 6-pin kind. It seemed to be an intermediary option between CIC and NBT. What are the available connectors on your Navigation Professional unit? Additional information: https://www.bimmer-tech.net/blog/item/101-basic-bmw-navigation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireCar Posted June 18, 2024 Author Share Posted June 18, 2024 The automobile I own is a 2004 e60 530i, which is an older model. The output screen of the head unit uses a 10-pin connector. These are the photographs of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireCar Posted June 18, 2024 Author Share Posted June 18, 2024 I intended to replace the defective CCC with a simple Mask or champ unit in order to see the car's sensors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinallcars Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 Can you visually see the sensors when your current one chooses to function? Additionally, I am uncertain whether the head units are programmed to the vehicle identification number (VIN) in order to render thefts futile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinallcars Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 I am unable to see the functionality of your Idrive screen when used in conjunction with a more recent head unit. I attempted to enhance the size of my 5.5-inch display to 8.8 inches. I thoroughly examined all the components, including the connections, but unfortunately, I was unable to achieve successful functionality. As already mentioned, a Champ 2 certainly use the distinct 6-pin purple video connector. Would it not be more straightforward to get a pre-owned machine that is identical to the one you presently possess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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