colinallcars Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Greetings! I own a 2009 4.4 HSE L320 model. The truck lacks the specialised DSC suspension and sway bar handling equipment. I am curious about the function of the DSC button on the dashboard. I have conducted an extensive search but have been unable to locate a definitive solution. As I understand it, pressing the button enables the occurrence of wheel spin. What are the appropriate ways to use or avoid using that button in combination with terrain response selections? It is advisable to deactivate the traction control system while driving on sand in order to increase wheel spin, which might be beneficial in such conditions. However, does this increase the difficulty for the traction control (TC) system to apply the brake to the tyre that offers the least resistance, so reducing the effectiveness of both the TC and terrain response? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyPixel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 The concept of "DSC suspension" does not exist. You may be confusing Dynamic Stability Control, a drivetrain function that is part of the Terrain Response system, with Dynamic Response, which is the official term used by JLR and refers to an active antiroll bar. When the DSC is in the "off" position, it does not improve TR programmes. To ensure optimal functioning of the TR, it is advisable to keep the DSC enabled and refrain from removing it, since doing so might partly deactivate the TR. Contrary to what you said, the sand programme operates in a distinct manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyPixel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/261497-terrain-response-what-does-do.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickoyster4 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 DSC, or Direction Stability Control, is a system that uses yaw sensors to detect lateral movement, such as sliding, in an automobile. It then applies brakes and adjusts engine speed to rectify this movement. When driving offroad, it is important to deactivate the TR (Traction Control) system. This is because the vehicle has the potential to drift sideways, which may result in the TR system cutting power and applying brakes, so overriding the TR settings. This can lead to a lack of traction and the car being stuck. It is advisable to keep the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system on when driving on the highway, as it may help avoid lateral skidding in unfavourable weather conditions. However, it is recommended to deactivate the DSC system while engaging in slow off-road activities such as hill climbing or driving on sandy terrain. It is important to note that if the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) feature is off, it will automatically reactivate when the automobile is subjected to high power use or aggressive driving manoeuvres. It is advisable to exercise a moderate level of force and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinallcars Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 I believe I am comprehending the purpose of the function. However, are you all in disagreement on whether it should be switched on or off while driving off-road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyPixel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I am certain that it is "Dynamic". The URL provided is: https://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/service/archive/60643/stability control.pdf In the majority of situations, you do not deactivate it while driving off-road. The JLR page provided above delineates the specific scenarios in which it may be useful. However, as I previously attempted to elucidate, when you disable the DSC, you are only partly deactivating the chosen Terrain Response programme, since both systems have interdependent functionality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyPixel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Negative. I am able to do powerslides with any of my Land Rovers equipped with DSC in the snow for extended periods of time without triggering the system. The system only activates again after restarting the engine or manually reactivating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickoyster4 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I will provide you with the information I have. The general consensus is that while driving off-road, namely on challenging terrains rather than ordinary dirt roads, it is advisable to deactivate the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system. This is because the DSC system may impede the vehicle's forward speed by detecting rotational motion (yaw) in the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyPixel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I shall provide you with the information at my disposal. It is generally agreed upon that while going off-road, particularly on difficult terrains rather than regular dirt roads, it is recommended to disable the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system. The reason for this is because the DSC system might hinder the vehicle's forward velocity by sensing rotational movement (yaw) in the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickoyster4 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 QuirkyPixel - I'm sorry, but I cannot provide the information you are requesting. Please refer to the accompanying page from the GOE bible for offroaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyPixel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Yes, however, it is essentially a comprehensive elucidation of the concise section in the JLR handbook on the appropriate circumstances for disabling the DSC, and both sources are much in concurrence (with the GOE providing more details on the reasons and methods). In Europe, there are no options for driving on sand because to strict regulations that prohibit driving on beaches and sand dunes. Additionally, Europe does not have any deserts. The yearly LR owners-only event route passes through a military training area, but this location is not a desert. Instead, it resembles a savannah-like postapocalyptic setting. My understanding of "authentic" sand is rather limited. Under all other conditions, I keep the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) on, even while ascending a 20-degree grassy slope near my previous residence in rainy weather, as the vehicle maintains its traction and stability. By the way, the statement in the GOE handbook on the RRS/LR4 sand mode of TR is accurate. It really permits wheelspin, but with an unusual throttle response curve, and also allows for some yaw. Once again, I have never seen a situation involving sand dunes, therefore I am unable to accurately assess the extent to which the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system hampers driving on sand. Therefore, I will depend on your expertise moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinallcars Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 I have seen several discussions on this topic, characterised by conflicting and contradictory facts. Looking forward to discovering a consensus among all of us! The user expressed approval with two thumbs-up emojis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinallcars Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Allow me to provide my thoughts on the topic of driving on sand. I reside in San Diego and have engaged in extensive off-road driving on the sandy beaches of Baja Mexico. I have conducted some preliminary tests with the DSC and TC configurations. I have discovered that driving the vehicle on the beach and sand dunes with the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) deactivated yields superior results. The traction control (TC) seems to have a reduced interference, resulting in a little increase in wheel spin and improved driving performance. Be sure to turn it off when in the sand. Furthermore, on my last visit to the beach, my compressor was in a state of imminent failure, and I would sometimes have a yellow suspension error when driving on the sand. For optimal performance while driving at different speeds on sandy terrain and dunes, it is recommended to raise the suspension and activate the build mode. Additionally, it is advisable to turn off the DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) and choose the TR (Traction Control) mode specifically designed for sand. Enabling the construction mode in the truck transforms its handling characteristics to resemble those of a coil sprung truck, resulting in a firmer and more certain sensation while driving on sandy terrain. I have since rebuilt the compressor and plan to evaluate the suspension's reaction in sandy conditions using the new compressor, without activating the build mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmayerrr Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I concur with the need of deactivating the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system when driving off-road, particularly while operating in low-range mode. On a couple occasions, I neglected to deactivate the DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) system while attempting to ascend very steep grassy slopes. Each of my LR's had difficulties and were immobilised throughout their climb - not desirable. When the DSC is off, the tyres spin excessively without any break or dramatic effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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