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blueWING007 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago I appreciate you showing the video. It would have been more accurate to test all three vehicles with the same winter tyre. Among the three, the CX-90 has the most attractive appearance. Those lengthy hoods and that far back cabin are my favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needsnewtyres2 Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago The factory tires from each manufacturer provide a more realistic illustration, in my opinion. Even if it would be fascinating to use the identical tires, the outcomes wouldn't be practical for the average buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueWING007 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago These tires are designed for winter use and are not standard issue. Michelin Pilot Alpin 5: Hyundai Continent Icecontact Extreme: Infiniti Michialin X-Ice Snow: Mazda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD1too Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago All of them were riding on the same tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lion Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago The tires on each of the three SUVs were unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lion Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago I seriously doubt that Mazda is interested in a snow performance comparison with their stock tires, particularly for their PHEVs. Since it would have been more practical to compete head-to-head, I assume that most snow drivers already own a good pair of snow tires anyhow (based on what I've read here and elsewhere). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolguy Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago As predicted, the Hyundai came in dead last by a wide margin. This is a perfect illustration of how excellent the CX90 drive train is, which is interesting because so many people seem to have problems with it. One illustration of their overall engineering is seeing the pallisade AWD system struggle in snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVC-Geeza Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Hyundai and Kia are enormous wastes of space. Pretty on the outside and utter shit on the inside. You can always find dozens of replacement engines if you go behind one of their dealerships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torque2me Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago There are "issues" here, but there are also "issues" with H/K. For example, my neighbor's New Santa Fe (a copycat of the Defender) was in the shop for over 60 days.The length of time he spent in a loaner caught my eye. One of my favourite things about Mazda is how unique their designs are.Regardless of what H/K does, it always seems like they're copying someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_raven Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago For a long time, Hyundai and Kia had the benefit of longer warranties. For a decade, we took care of any problems that arose. That was the major benefit. Eliminating it gave them the advantage back, but it was for naught. There have been too many drastic redesigns of the cars themselves. Consumables including oil, cabin air filters, and model-specific filters are model-and year-specific. All of them are unique, while some are cartridges and some are add-ons. Various even down to the wiper blades. From 2019 to 2021, my two Sorentos went through a wiper replacement. Because of this ongoing evolution, consumables are both scarce and costly. And then there are the modifications that prevent theft. My insurance company has threatened to cancel my coverage until I update my daughters' Seltos, and they have sent me at least four consecutive notifications about this. That causes the vehicle to be held at the dealership for one day every time. So far, my CX90 encounters have been much more consistent. Because it has been on the market for over a decade and is standard for most models, aftermarket oil filters are easy to get. For$120, I got a maintenance kit from the dealer that had new wiper blades, an oil filter with oil, and filters for the cabin and intake air. For Kia, the same parts are only available individually, necessitating visits to both the dealer and two other auto parts stores. It cost more than $300. Everyone else's Seltos was that. The age is starting to show on my 2019 Sorento. In your opinion, what will take its place? When it comes to snow handling, my criteria are whether it's possible to drive away from the curb after the ploughs have passed and how it manages to navigate streets with several snow drifts. Pretty much the same for all three. My apologies if this is completely irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lion Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago While the video's comparison of the three SUVs' performance in a "snow battle" is entertaining, it doesn't really add anything to the overall evaluation. Furthermore, a race on a level runway isn't very important. It's like those huge booming car ads that try to show people what their vehicle can do in the middle of a jungle or desert. Nice theatre, but impractical for most consumers. While a swerving test has its uses, I'd be more interested in seeing how these cars handled climbing and descending slopes, navigating snowy intersections, stopping and going in the city, driving through heavy snow, freeing an SUV stuck in the snow, and other similar situations. Their tests weren't clean, but it's wonderful to cheer for our beautiful CX-90 that we drive. Every one of the three SUVs had a distinct set of tires, as spirod noted (and brought up briefly in the video). Before the tests, the guy said that the tires on the CX-90 were "meatier" than those on the Palisade; I also noticed that he either ignored or downplayed the comments made concerning the tire difference, haha. According to certain customer reports, the Michelin CX90 tires perform better in the Winter/Snow category (which includes light snow, heavy snow, and ice traction), compared to the other set of Michelin tires. I don't understand. Again, a runway relay? It would have been more intriguing if the Palisade had the tires of the CX90 and still managed to perform significantly worse. Michelin Pilot tires on the Palisade also get a much lower treadwear rating. Vehicles appear to be registered rather than lent by dealers; I have no idea how many miles have previously been put on these tires, and the Palisade's tires have worse Winter ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWILB Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Theatrical performances? In conditions where there is minimal traction on a snowy surface, it demonstrates how the all-wheel drive systems of the various vehicles differ in how they distribute power to the wheels. For someone like me who has a steep paved driveway that gets buried in snow during the winter, this is not only relevant information, but it would be crucial. In terms of tires? All of them have snow tires, and the pallisade stands out as the only one that doesn't, thanks to its subpar all-wheel drive system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_raven Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Sure, but every single one of them had identical winter SUV tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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